Allright guys...what do yall think Busch would have done is they had no limitations on them (a.k.a. kingsmill, height regulations etc.)

I do think they would be remarkably simliar to what they are now since they are not that focused up on only rides they are world renownd for there elaborate themes, beauty, ect.. They can't do alot with they way they made there park. Unlike Disney they made it a curcuit. That cuts off alot of land in my opinion. Thats why I wanna be an enginner for Busch I know what people like. But thats along time from now if i wanna do that. I do think they might of had an extra coaster if it wasnt for heights restrictions.

If Kingsmill wasn't there they could make a whole new country with taller coasters and even maybe a woodie.

Wasn't Apollo supposed to be a whole lot taller?
They could definitely get a woodie, but I don't know if they'd really want to.


It's not all about what people want, it's about what Busch themselves want.
And while what Busch themselves want tends to be what people want, it's not always the other way around.
If it were, I think we would have a much lower-quality park on our hands.

I think it is healthy for a park to have certain limitations imposed on them. If every park could just go off and build 400+ foot coasters they would be rather common and boring. Limitations force creativity where designers actually have to think up new ideas of exciting things within those boarders. So would I like to see Busch without a height limit? Probably not. They do rather well for themselves as is.

Without a height limitation, I think Apollo's Chariot would've been like 250 ft tall, but it's still a great ride if it's 170 ft tall with a 210 ft first drop.

I do agree. If busch had no limits they'd be like cedar point. It makes them to have more creative storys backrouds and tracks. Like at Alton Towers no coaster can excede treelines. So look what they do with Nemisis. Thats one of the best themes. Air a ground hugging flyer what still has two inversions. They make them alot more creative with there limits. We dont have that harsh of rules but look there still part of the majority big coaster world. There also one of the best in Europe. I think no Limitations would make it so much less uniqueness to the parks quality and atmosphere.

I seriously doubt busch gardens would ever, EVER, be like cedar point. Limitations or not. I think even without the limitations busch gardens would find a way to stand out and maintain their individuality. Though there are a few things i would love to see at this park ( Drop tower, Wooden coaster, launch coaster), i dont think the park can get much better.

I think you would see a fireworks/feu d'artifice display of some sort maybe akin to Epcot or MGM. They probably could have built some ampitheater seating on both banks of the Rhine near the train trestle for such a display.

I have often wondered what ever became of the old England parking lot near the Banbury Cross bridge and the parking lot across 60 from the old entrance. I would imagine AB still owns that land....

Yeah i guess that our park is pretty perfect for the ideal park great themes great coasters and great popularity. It does need a kiddie coaster and some more family oriented rides though. but its pretty good. Im sorry if it sounded like I was out of my mind or somthing to compare it to Cedar Point. But I have to admit I think i might lower the quality. Maybe a little but it would be still a great park since its unbilieveably good park right now.

Either an extreme launch like Kingda Ka and TTD or a nice sized woodie. Wooden coasters are classic which i think would fit in nicely with the park.

I doubt they would ever do any sort of launch ride due to their reliability history.
Unless of course it's a B&M launch like Hulk at IOA

Well yea the reliability factor has been a major problem on TTD and KDK but for the smaller ones they have been no major problems that ive heard... while a ride like TTD would be nice im sure it would get old fast. Id rather have something unique like storm runner.

Hulk at IOA on the other hand was an amazing ride id love to see something like that at BG. The thing is B&M never really wanted to make launch coasters and thats the reason they didnt do it again. Im surprised they havent done something like that again because that was an incredible, intense ride. Id much rather have something like that than another TTD.

BGE won't get an Intamin coaster for a long time, trust me. If they are only building B&M coasters right now, at a slow pace, I wouldn't expect an Intamin within the next few years.

I dont think TTD and Kinda Ka were that amazing no terrain, barely theming, and just to short. Storm Runner looks so much better if we get i think it will be like that. Plus if everyone had somthing like TTD or Kinda Ka the would end up like the superman clones or batman the ride. They wouldnt be interesting anymore.

TTD and Kingda Ka, to me, are simply Six Flags and Cedar Fair trying to show who has the bigger penis. I doubt BG would ever join that "competition".


On the contrary, they could consider an Intamin launch ride IF (strong emphasis on if) it proved reliable. Intamins are pretty fun and always innovative. We'll have to see how Maverick does. If it's a success and doesn't have too many problems, I think it would be something to consider. It looks like a pretty neat ride.

When I spoke with Larry Giles this past summer, he referred to B&M as "the greatest roller coaster builder in the business." I personally think Anheuser Busch has sold its soul to the Swiss box-track-duo, and until they run out of coaster-types to build, that's all we're going to see Not that this is a bad thing

It's certainly not a bad thing, and I certainly agree with Mr. Giles!